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Old 07-11-2015, 05:02 PM   #1
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Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

I have owned both but have never used a pole building as a workshop.

We are about to sign a contract on a pole building and I just wanted to solicit some advice before we pull the trigger.

For those that have used a pole building as a workshop, any disadvantages or things you would do differently?

Using a steel covered pole building just seems so much more logical, less maintenance than a wood covered painted building, plus there is a warranty on the pole building.

The shop is slated to be 30 x 44 with concrete floor and 2 post auto lift... more information here: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=289293

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Old 07-12-2015, 09:48 PM   #2
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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

Hello John, just got back from your neck of the woods about 24 hours ago. Lots of chores now after being gone 8 days!

I have been working in and on a pole barn for 23 years. Ran a business out of it too for 17 of those years. I love my shop almost more than the junk I have crammed in it. I worked on everything outside for 13 years before we built it. Got no clue how. Young and didn't know no better I guess!

Our shop is 30x45, 14' sidewall, full concrete floor. The steel sheets were 3' wide hence the size so there was no cutting lengthwise of any sheets. GO BIGGER if possible. All of the cost cutting we had to do was because of what we could get for a loan and we tried to get more like a 45x60 first.

I really wish we had floor drains and a bathroom. Get an insulated bay door(s). We barely had enough in the budget to use 3/4" thermax sheeting and a wrap for insulation and to this day that's all the insulation it has. Not super efficient energy wise but still will warm up just fine. I suggest finishing the inside by studding up and putting roll insulation and sheeting with sheetrock or anything you can afford right away. Our bay door and office door are both facing south so it is difficult to get a good breeze thru the shop when desired. I recently got a nice new old stock 3-0 house door so it will go on the north side some day, and will greatly improve the airflow at times.

Go with the highest electrical service you can right away if you use electric heat, welding, air compressor, etc.

Another thing you may run in to is the bay door/sidewall height you choose may barely clear the trusses so ceiling sheeting will have to go between the trusses rather than under. The gussets from the trusses to the posts will cause minor issues putting in a ceiling too.

You cannot use the trusses to pull engines or whatever. I built a gantry crane for that. It takes up space but that problem is worth it to me.

Hope this helps---DAC
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:06 AM   #3
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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

Thanks Doug, sounds like sage advice from a fella that has spent many hours in said building.

It'll have insulated doors and 100 amp electric. We had a nice 30 x 40 Lester building erected back in Ohio, but I used it for storage, never did much actual wrenching in it.

The 9 ft sidewall enables the building to not look so massive next to our small 1200 sq ft home.

Does your building have any roof vents for ventilation?
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:58 AM   #4
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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

A couple of thoughts.............
There is no such thing as too much garage..........
Plan now, so you don't wish you'd done it differently later.....
Although I do have hot and cold running water, I wish I'd done a full bathroom in my shop, maybe even a shower.
Plan good lighting............
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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

I want that Cad.. That would be so cool...:)
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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

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A couple of thoughts.............
There is no such thing as too much garage..........
Plan now, so you don't wish you'd done it differently later.....
Although I do have hot and cold running water, I wish I'd done a full bathroom in my shop, maybe even a shower.
Plan good lighting............
I agree Bill.
I have a laundry room right off the garage with a toilet and sink. I want to enclose it with a shower all around it but Betty isn't to warm to the idea. It also a has a large tub sink which I do use quite a bit.
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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

Yah, I've got a stackable washer and dryer, a utility sink, and a water heater, but...........
and I didn't hook anything up to the septic, so it's just a pvc pipe drain down to the orange tree............
Oh, and I have a redwood fence behind the shop........
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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

Ours is that tall as I used to letter semi-tractors in it. They just fit if they had no windjammer on the roof. Personally I don't mind the shop being dominant, since I only sleep and shower in the house!-LOL! Even my on-line time is done out here in the office of our shop!

We have cold water only and use a cool looking 1950's porcelain steel kitchen sink and full under cabinet to clean up in. Furnace is also an old house unit, natural gas so someday I should get a small water heater. I don't want to use a bunch of my electrical service on an electric heater.

Oh Bill, I understand why you noted about the redwood fence!!!

No roof vents John, as the ceiling isn't in yet. Once that finally gets done I will probably cut in gable end vents.

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Re: Pole Style Building vs. Stick Building

Got any lemon trees by the redwood fence Bill?
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Not yet............
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